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Race Profit's 1902 number supplies professional analysis and selections for gallops racing 7 days a week, available after scratchings at 9.30am Queensland Time (8.30am during Daylight Saving), so you are not paying for irrelevant information. Standouts, Trifectas & Feature Races daily.
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Now we are going to save you even the effort of making the phone call – along with our overseas clients, we will send the selections by email each morning after scratchings at approx. 9.30 Eastern Standard Daylight saving time or 8.30am Queensland time, to your email address.
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"This is a great idea. I loved the $1000+ trifecta today - I certainly backed a winner when
I signed up with Raceprofit." Elizabeth L - 13/11/05
"Your memory is correct, I got my first big trifecta win in my third week
with you, and my profit overall is averaging $1000 per month - from an
initial one-off investment of $400. I only started using the 1902 number in
November and so far I've had two big trifecta wins in less than two weeks!
Yes, you can use my comments, but without my surname as you suggest."
Elizabeth L 14/11/05
1902 Number Information
**The races for "The Daily Mail" (reg.) available by email service or1902 number, are culled and carefully chosen, to present you with what we believe are the best betting races from all tracks each day, but will predominately be from Qld, NSW, Vic and SA. and limited to fast, good or dead tracks only.
There are 3 options 1. Standouts + Specials
3. Feature Races
1.Standouts & specials:- We will give you the number, the name of the horse and most importantly we will give you the minimum price you should get, taking into account the whole field, before investing on the horse.
You will also hear the 3 dangers to the top selection in the chosen races and these will be in rating order.
Generally you will find that the winner, the quinella and occasionally the trifecta, will be in these 4 selections, and if the race is a double or treble leg, they represent the standout chances. (for an actual example click here & then click on 17/4/05)
Thus as we are in the Profit business and not the "look at us we tipped a 20/1 winner arent we great, and forget all the other losers" business, you will have the 4 selections to work with from the carefully chosen races.
As a guide, if you are working only with the top four as opposed to the whole field, then setting your price parameter for the top selection at $2, you need $5 for the second selection and $7 for the 3rd & 4th selections. Having 50% of your outlay on the top, 20% on the second and 15% on the 3rd and 4th will bring you square at those prices.
If the prices are longer you are in profit mode. If the prices are lower you omit those that are or omit the race altogether.*
We have exclusive software that enables us to analyse every track, distance & class of race for profitability, and this along with experience, results in the first & very important part of the process - culling & selecting which races to bet on.
We then use another lot of software, that is probably the same used by most professional punters & bookmakers to supplement our experience and to select the 4 major chances from those chosen races with a view to a profit coming from using those 4 chances. Races that cannot fit that criteria are further culled to leave you with what we believe are the days profit making races.
*For more information on framing your own market see "Commonsense Punting" -A Mathematical Approach by Roger Dedman Chapter 10 or email firstname.lastname@example.org
Trifecta betting is much more complex and we have a different approach to all others, that has proven very successful.
Please carefully read the message below that we send to all our Internet clients, and email us at email@example.com or ring us on 07 55 921274, or 07 3852 5008 with any questions, so that you are clear in your own mind how to use the 8 selections given for trifectas before you incur the cost of getting the information.
*TRIFECTA BETTING – A MESSAGE FROM THE “PROPHET”
Multi subscribers will notice that the trifecta selections cover different races from the exotics, and that the selections go deeper.(8 as opposed to 4)
This is because whilst the main objective, which is make to make money, is the same, the means of achieving it is different.
Trifecta betting is actually quite mathematically complex and to be done properly you should at a minimum have a calculator with you and preferably a pre-programmed computer. (For those interested see "Commonsense Punting" A Mathematical Approach by Roger Dedman or either Winning More or Winning in the 90’s by Don Scott, alternatively email firstname.lastname@example.org with any questions)
Our products, however, are geared in the main to a punter who is usually short on time to get too complicated, so after many trials over 5 years, we have evolved a selection system for trifectas, that whilst not mathematically precise should give you a good chance of winning.
Here is it how it works:-
1. We select races where we think there may be some value in trifecta betting.
These will usually, but not always be different to Standout races ie there could be overlapping.
2. We give you 8 selections in those races, ranked in order, to help you go deep enough if required to get the trifecta and snare some good dividends.
3. This is important! We further classify the 8 selections into categories to help you with your outlay decisions. Every time you see a * next to a horse’s number it means that horse is rated at least 1 length superior to those that follow. Horses that do not have a * next to them are deemed to be so close to each other in ratings, that if you are going to include one of them, you should include all of them. If you cannot afford it you probably should not bet on that race. (NSW punters excepted, see later)
NB:For 1902 229 000 clients the * is called as a star on your trifecta recording.
To illustrate, say selections show 2,3*, 1,7,5,10,8,6 . This means that 2+3 are rated at least 1 length superior to 1,7,5,10,8,6 which do not have much between them, and your minimum trifecta bet should be 23/23/ 1,7,5,10,8,6 costing $12 or your maximum bet should be 23/123567810/123567810 costing $84.
With unitab you could also take a roving trifecta with 2,3 as the rovers and 1,7,5,10,8,6 costing $30 and here BOTH 2 and 3 would have to be in the placings for you to win. The advantage of this method is that if any of 1,7,5,10,8,6 could upset the fancied two you would collect, and probably collect quite nicely.
Often a race on face value looks like a guaranteed roving trifecta bet with two numbers as rovers, but the problem can be that the two rovers could be at short prices and it is unlikely you will cover your outlay unless something beats both of them. If you do not think that could happen then don’t bet.
Taking one horse as a rover is much less risky but is more expensive, if the ratings looked like 1*2345*678 you could take 1 as the rover with 2345 which would cost you $36 or to go wider 1 as the rover with 2345678 which would cost $126.
Here the 1 must run 1st.2nd or 3rd with any of the other numbers filling the other 2 places for you to collect.
If on the other hand the ratings looked like 2,5*1*34*698, here you could bet as follows :-5/125/12345 costing $12, 25/12345/12345698 costing $48, 25/125/12345698 costing $24 and so on.
Say Ratings were 6,1,13,3*2,4,5,10 – here your trifecta should include the top four for the win, say 6,1,13,3/6,1,13,3/6,1,13,3,2,4 costing $48 at least and preferably 6,1,13,3/6,1,13,3,2,/6,1,13,3,2,4,5,10 costing $96, if this is too expensive or looks as though the trifecta will not equal the outlay, then stay away from the race.
(again it is not mathematically precise but multiplying the odds of your horses together will normally give you a feel as to what the trifecta will pay, so the lower odds give you your minimum payout and investment criteria & the higher odds give you yoiur best case scenario – if you want the precise formula email us, indeed email us with any questions you have on this topic)
4. Here are some common trifecta bet types:-
(a) The most common, most inefficient and most expensive is boxing. Boxing 8 selections costs $336 or $168 for ½, so your bank had better be large and you should ensure that the dividend will be worth the outlay! Professionals call this mugs money.
(b) The next most common is the pyramid or standout system which can take a number of forms. One example is when one horse is rated above 7 other horses that are close together. Rather than back the highest rated horse straight out you may get better value by having a 1/2,3,4,5,6,7,8/2,3,4,5,6,7,8 trifecta costing $42 or $21 for a half.
Other examples are 123/1234/123456 costing $36, 1234/12345/123456 costing $64, 12/12345/12345678 costing $48, etc
We have found that given the fact that our strike rate for winning from our top two selections is high (just under 50%) that the last combination is usually the best of them, as there is around a 1 in 2 chance of getting the winner, and the 5 horses for 2nd and 8 horses for 3rd means that there is a chance to get a long priced horse in those positions.
We call this the 2/5/8 formula and when in doubt suggest you fall back on it or at the most a 3/5/8 combination.(click here and then click on 15/4/05 for an actual illustration)
However there is no set formula and you really should assess each race on its merits and use the* next to horses to guide you as to which trifecta combination you choose.
Remember what ever your method of betting it all comes back to strike rate and return, if you are going to outlay $50 a trifecta then with a strike rate of 1 in 4 you will need a dividend of $200 just to break square. The * are there to help you minimise your outlay.
NB: Whilst Unitab punters have the roving trifecta, NSW punters have the luxury of being able to include all the numbers they think necessary to get the trifecta and then nominating the amount they want to bet. Eg they can box 8 numbers for $56 and get 1/6th of the dividend, better to get 1/6th of a dividend than get nothing because you could not afford to include all the chances!
Hopefully Unitab will adopt this policy soon.
Good luck with the selections, and do not hesitate to email us re any questions.
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*Standouts, Exotics & Trifectas cover races that we have carefully chosen from Qld, NSW, Vic & SA as profit making races on tracks rated fast, good or dead only.
Exotics & Trifectas include information sheets on how to use the selections, and Trifecta selections are backed up on race day by suggested minimum and maximum bet types for each race. Internet covers Saturday & Wednesday each week, 1902 229 000 covers every day.
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**Trebles & 1st4s cover all races chosen by Unitab for those bet types, whether we think they are good profit making races or not, and regardless of track conditions. We do however suggest which 1st 4 races should be invested on & which ones should not.
Internet only, covering Saturday & Wednesday meetings each week.
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The new internet product mix since the introduction of trifectas (Even we are surprised at the results of our trifecta product since its release), is as follows:-
1. Standouts $20/week or $240 for 13 weeks (Sat & Wed)
2. NoProfitNoPay -Standouts plus. $20 for winning weeks only, (Sat& Wed)
3. Exotics $20/week or $240 for 13 weeks (Sat & Wed))
4. Trifectas $20/week or $240 for 13 weeks (Sat & Wed)
5. Trebles $20/week or $240 for 13 weeks (Sat & Wed)
6. 1st Fours $20/week or $240 for 13 weeks (Sat & Wed)
7. Any two of above $30/week or $360 for 13 weeks
8. All three $45/week or $540.00 for 13 weeks
9. Betting strategy for win only betting $100.00 one off.(Applies to other systems as well)
10. "The Lot", Betting Strategy, Standouts, Exotics, Trifecta’s,
Trifecta Parameters (suggested bet types) Trebles, 1st fours plus guarantee (increase of starting bank of at least 50% over 13 weeks using standout selections and the betting strategy, or $260 of your subscription credited or refunded) $500.00 for 13 weeks.
As well at the moment we are offering 4 weeks for any two at $99.00
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